Graham Pemberton
1 min readAug 7, 2022

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Hi Gerald.

Thanks for digging that out for me.

It isn't clear to me that there is any evidence here for dual aspect monism rather than idealism. Some of these statements are ambiguous, even confusing, and open to interpretation.

Firstly, do all scientists believe very passionately in the reality of the physical world? Are there no idealist scientists? I've previously quoted some who make statements strongly suggestive of idealism. Even if there weren't, that doesn't mean that the others would be correct.

He then says that the quantum world is more subtle, more veiled than the physical world in the classical sense. He claims that protons and electrons are real, then says that they are not objective in the classical sense (is that a contradiction?), but that it is convenient to suppose (hypothesise?) their existence in order to do science.

So do they really exist or not? This leads me to wonder whether all this is a much more subtle and sophisticated version of one of your favourite phrases, “shut up and calculate”.

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Graham Pemberton
Graham Pemberton

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